Both Bea and Rue called Betty a cunt! (2024)

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Off topic a bit but I think Ethel Merman would have been fabulous on The Golden Girls 👧.

It was jealousy and the fact Bea and Rue were old bitter bitches similar to their characters.

Um Idk about Bea but I always thought Betty and Rue got along splendidly. I am sure they did, and things were slightly out of context.

Betty was far too sweet to be wholesome. I prefer Estelle and Bea's more honest sensibility.

I love Betty and all these gossipy stories after her and Bea's death are tacky, but I've heard from other sources that Betty was more like Sue Ann Nivens in real life then any of her characters. Which makes me like her even more

And I shat in her fucking wig.

Betty always did come off as nice to audiences, and a backstabber to people she called friends confused why people don't like her

I left her a huge one with a triple swirl at the caboose end of it.

Rue and Betty were good friends. When Rue moved back to NY they still called each other every other week.

The DL gasp that shocked the world! Who fucking cares??? Yes, I took 10 seconds to come read the post...move on gals, Betty White is dead.

Regardless of any animosity, they all loved and respected each other in the end. Some of my loved ones irritate me sometimes. So what..

Thanks R14, It's nice to hear about that side of her.

I recall reading the Betty White and Bea Arthur live somewhat near each other, and that Betty drove Bea back and forth to the studio every day. It makes you wonder how much they disliked each other.

Betty always struck me as being more like Sue Ann Nivens in real life and Bea actually strikes me as being a lot like Dorothy in terms of insecurities and life disappointments.

I was at a fundraiser she hosted for the LA Zoo about 20 years ago and watched her interact with everyone. I tell you, when the cameras weren’t on her and that smile shut, off she did seem pretty cunty. I still love her though.

I called them all cunts.

Bea Arthur calling Betty White a cunt is pretty much fact: numerous people have confirmed it over the years. However, I don't believe Rue ever called Betty a cunt (only when she recounted the story of Bea calling Betty a cunt) since she and Betty got along well. There is footage on Rue's old facebook page of Rue talking to Betty on the phone before she went in for heart surgery. Also the last movie Rue ever saw in theaters was The Proposal according to her long-time assistant. Rue spoke fondly of Betty in her book.

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You would think they would have used any excuse to get Estelle Getty and her character off the show. Their patience was surprising.

Betty, Rue, and Estelle seemed to be on good terms long after the show ended. Until Estelle became too ill, the three made numerous appearances together on various shows and reunion panels. Bea never appeared with the others other than one DVD signing and one panel. Here's the video R23 refers to. At the 4 minute mark, Betty White calls Rue just before Rue is about to go in for heart surgery.

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While she’s iconic and fabulous, who among us believe Bea Arthur was anything other than a harsh curmudgeon? She surely had a big heart and loved those close to her, but it’s not hard to imagine her being a tough, acerbic broad to just about everyone else.

I always felt she might be like the Catherine Piper character she played on Boston Legal.

I know someone who was very close to Bea and he said Bea absolutely could not stand Betty and would go off about her randomly. She definitely hated her.

Bea was also an alcoholic and fell off the wagon multiple times. Even Joan Rivers talked about it and Miss Coco Peru, who was a close friend. Bea walked around the neighborhood without shoes on. In fact, it was a rare occurrence to ever see her not barefoot.

But was it a banter "cunt" like "she's a good cunt" or was it like "I hate the fucking cunt" because tone is important.

I’ve been called a cunt here on DataLounge many, many times but I know it was meant with love.

It's a badge of honor, R31. Wear it in pride!

Betty's a lesbian I mean for sure for sure.

R29 I love her and she was the most talented of the bunch but she sounds terribly unpleasant. I can’t stand people who are working on sitcoms who try to make it like they’re performing Shakespeare. I appreciate Betty for not being self important in that respect - and also being “one of the guys” and knowing how to dish it as well as she could take it.

Bea had a lot of problems. If you read Jim Colucci’s Golden Girls book, everyone is quoted as saying the other three ladies had to constantly apologize for Bea’s behavior. Bea had one actress fired for chewing gum. What was with her lying about serving in the military?

I know the truth

When you are around people so much they get on your fucking nerves. Betty was nice but could also be fake.

What R37 said.

R13 Did you even read the story? How can you say no one ever had a negative thing to say about Betty when the story is about Bea and Rue calling Betting a fucking cunt?! LOL So there, we have at least 2 people who had something negative to say about Betty.

How was Bea the most talented? She always played herself. Betty’s character on the Mary Tyler Moire show is completely unlike her character ion the Golden Girls.

Datalounge is filled to the hilt with big fat cunts, I include myself in the number. Everyone has their moment and time to be a cunt, I'm sure the G girls were no different, we are all only human.

Betty White outlived them all. 'Nuff said.

well besides the fact that celebrities are regular people with huge expectations put on them from total strangers about how they should behave - if you look at what was said about Bea - she was clearly difficult to get along with and many people did not like her, this is not true of Betty - so who do you believe? maybe their personalities just didn't go together, like many other co-workers. I am very easy to get on with, friendly, and generally well liked wherever I have worked. I can honestly say I really like and even adore so many of my coworkers sans one.....and she is actually very nice and very much liked by everyone around her - I confided this in one of my co-worker friends and she can't understand how I could dislike this lady - she just rubs me the wrong way, that's it. If they ever re-org and she reports to me, job one I would fire her.

It's not shocking. I loved the ol gal, but no doubt she was a huge pain in the ass to work with on that show.

One of the key writers for GG talks about Bea's personality, and why she was her favorite one to write for - interesting.

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R51. Interestingly, both of the anecdotes she tells about Bea center on Bea’s conviction that everyone should be awed by her fame.

Nana could only invite Betty alone or Bea and Rue, but never the three to the same cul-de-sac party.

Speaking of Jim Colucci, R36, I met him once and he was one of the most insufferable pieces of shit I’ve ever experienced.

Funny, I’ve seen the name Winifred Hervey’s name a thousand times in the credits and that is NOT how I ever would have pictured her.

We need A Max/Mary appearance in every thread!

Periodic reminder that Bea Arthur left half a million dollars in her will to build the Forney homeless shelter for lgb young people in NYC.

Old bitches bitchin. They are us.

I wish Lucille Ball had played the part of Sophia. It would have been the capstone of her career. She had so much more appeal than Estelle Getty, in my opinion.

Lucille Ball would never have been part of a sitcom ensemble. Not after being the star of four self-titled sitcoms (three if you assume she would have done GG instead of Life with Lucy). She would have seen it as beneath her.

Thus it would have given her the perfect perspective to play the embittered old grouch Sophia.

Almost anyone would have been better than Estelle Getty.

They is true. Betty’s character was also written as a cliche, which is why she was less memorable than on the MTM show.

R37... Chill out! I did apologize

R64- This show was not a documentary about four older women living together it was a SITCOM.

But characters in a sitcom are supposed to be funny

Bea and Betty were basically opposites that creates tension. Bea was a low key pessimist with a drinking problem and Betty was a high-energy optimist workaholic with no life outside of work and animals.

R69- Betty had no life outside of work , animals and PUSSY FLAPS.

r54 bDetails, please.

R72- In spite of all the gay worship of The Golden Girls the writing on the show rarely any thing other than AVERAGE.

R29 Can you please tell us what the divine Miss Coco Peru said about Bea?

R63 Estelle was the best part of the GG. I adored her as Sophia. She was the funniest one by far.

Well,the show is stlll on constantly,still popular and the ladies are still talked about a lot . Id say they won.

Golden Girls was number one on the Neilson Streaming Charts in January and apparently the show continues to rank in the top 10 most months. That's insane for a show that has been off the air for 30 years.

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R75 Video at the link. She speaks highly of Bea. It's funny.

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In your dreams, cunt at r31.

The person who wrote that Bea hated Betty and would talk about her randomly... that's often a sign of suppressed lust. It's like men or women who constantly bash gays are often suppressing homosexual desires. Hate is close to love. Why was Bea obsessed with Betty so much? I bet they had a fling after their mothers died. They became very close and insiders said they would constantly hold hands. I imagine one night, Betty was at Bea's house or vice versa and they had a little bit too much to drink and ended up in bed together. Then either Bea or Betty didn't want to continue the relationship because it would ruin their careers and get them fired from GG.

Unfortunately Bea was sexually assaulted by her superior officer while serving as a Marine in WW 2. As a result, she contracted an STD and SHE was punished for it! Nothing happened to the officer who raped her. As a result, she was left infertile. I can totally understand why she seemed to be so brittle and bitter. Bea, Florence Ballard, Barbara Stanwyck, all victims of rape, all considered to be “cold” and not friendly…

I think Rufus Wainwright went to that Coco Peru interview with Bea Arthur. He was living in LA, away from his native Canada for the first time. Watching "The Golden Girls" cheered him. He told Bea that she felt like his grandmother. Be replied: "I'm not your fucking grandmother."

Charlie's Angels was a much better show.

*Bea replied

"I was never in the Marines."

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